Discussing Questions And Answers About Dry Dog Food Made With Turkey

Lisa asks…

Hi fellow seniors, have you used up all your food leftovers yet?

I have one cooked turkey breast in the freezer still to use, I’m not sure yet what I shall make with it, hubby likes curry and I like cold cuts, pickles and a few chips/fries, hopefully it will stretch to a little of both.

Mince pies are vanishing fast as are the sausage rolls also the shortbread biscuits.
In fact it’s amazing we have anything left at all once my hungry hoards have tucked in.

So how about you, do you have any remnants left to clear and possibly an idea of what to make with the surplus turkey?

Jimmy answers:

Dog food.

No, I mean that literally! The leftover turkey went into gravy that was served as hot sandwiches the next day with layers of stuffing and mashed potatoes with it. But there was still some of the turkey in gravy left and just this morning, it went into the dog’s bowl. Good thing it was there too, because I forgot to make her “stew” yesterday….

(Our dog is a redbone hound, with a very deep chest. As a result she has digestive problems, and can not eat canned food at all. It makes her throw up. She also doesn’t do well on just dry food–she will end up throwing even that up. We tried just adding water to her dry with the same result. One day, in order to get her to eat, I made her “stew” myself with some chicken offcuts I had in the freezer. I used chicken and rice and potatoes in that first stew, leaving the mixture “very wet” and adding it warm in equal amounts to dry food in her bowl….and she ate it all quite happily and kept it down. Since then I have made “dog stew” out of ground beef, and ground pork and pork sausages. With potatoes or carrots or tomatoes. And always with rice. I flavour the stew with salt and pepper and rosemary and a bit of thyme. And the dog has not thrown up a meal since I first started feeding her these meals…So, yes–the leftover turkey has gone into the dog food, and she is enjoying it very much!)

James asks…

What is your opinion on Ol’ Roy’s Pure Balance dog food?

I looked at the back of each dry dog food bag at Wal-Mart today comparing ingredients and ended up buying ‘Pure Balance’ by Ol’ Roy. It looked to be the best dry food Wal-Mart had to offer.

It truely doesn’t look terrible, especially compared to the Purina Puppy Chow my dog had been eating all his life. It is compared to ‘Blue Buffalo’.

I had to chose something from our Wal-Mart because I wanted to get my dog off of Purina Puppy Chow as soon as possible. When I can afford it, I am going to upgrade. Right Now I am leaning towards trying ‘Taste of the Wild’ brand foods. I ultimately want a top rated dog food.

Is this a decent food to keep my dog on semi-long term? I thought I had found a good middle ground of food quality until I can upgrade, but the fact that it is made by Ol’ Roy worries me now, after seeing peoples reactions when Ol’ Roy is mentioned. It’s apparently the very worst dog brand ever.

My friend has been looking for a good middle ground food too, to get her new adopted dog off of ‘Science Diet’. I was going to recommend the ‘Pure Balance’ by Ol’ Roy, but now I am not sure.
I had to buy from Wal-Mart due to location, not price necessarily. We have no pet store in our town, just Wal-Mart and Farm&Home. Our Wal-Mart only had 15 lb bags to boot, and I have a large dog breed.

The ingredients are : Lamb, Lamb meal, brown rice, brewers rice, pea protein, dried peas, dried carrots, dried plain beet pulp, poultry fat (preserved with vitamin E), sunflower oil, dried egg product, then it goes on into vitamins and minerals and supplement type words. It does have flaxseed and cranberry in the middle of the list.

Jimmy answers:

Thanks for your list of ingredients, it’s the only place I could find a list for this food online. I would say it follows the rules for the main criteria that I look for in a food, which are these:
1 – If the source meat is listed as a whole meat (like “Lamb” or “Chicken”) it should be quickly followed by a meal (with source meat, i.e. Specific kind of meat like above “Lamb meal”, NOT “meat meal”). This is because the ingredients are listed by weight, and a “whole meat” has heavy water weight – so you don’t want to see the next ingredient be grain, before you see “meal” – which is a protein source with the water weight removed (that’s a very shorthand, non-scientific explanation). So this food meets that criteria
2 – No meat by-products (chicken beaks, lamb hooves, feathers, etc). So this food meets that criteria.
3 – Specifically sourced fat or oil, i.e. NOT “crude fat”, which comes from rendering companies and is a pretty gross product when you research it. Instead the fat source should either be vegetable oil (like the sunflower oil above) and/or a specific meat source of fat, like the “poultry fat” above. So this food meets that criteria.
Typically, if a food follows these 3 criteria, they have formulated the most expensive part of the manufacturing process correctly, and as a general rule of thumb, you have a quality food. This is MY opinion, based on information I have mostly learned via The Whole Dog Journal, which can also give you much more in depth and specific breakdown of food quality.
IT IS IMPORTANT to know a list of criteria like this so you can identify a quality food because probably just as important as a quality food is your practice of REGULARLY changing the food you feed every several months. It is NOT a good practice to feed the same product, continually, for years. THAT is the one of the primary causes of food allergies.
Other people who are more educated on this than me, will also get into the actual manufacturing practices of food companies, specifically where they source the meat, etc. But there is one thing you can remember when you go down that path: Our domestic dogs are descended from garbage eaters (they are descended from the same ANCESTORS of wolves, but not descended from wolves as we know them today – Ray Coppinger’s book – DOGS). They became domesticated by eating at the village garbage dumps – and they have survived for centuries eating scraps, AND grain products, and raw bones, etc. They are much less fragile then today’s current conversation on pet food would have us believe.
Personally, my own dogs get a breakfast of raw joint bones (chicken, duck or turkey necks) and a dinner of any one of a half dozen kibble that follow my criteria above, mixed with some home-made cooked ground meat and brown rice. Healthy, clean teeth, no food allergies = success. But I also had an afghan hound back in the 80′s – 90′s that lived to the age of 18 eating nothing but Blue Seal dog food, which is little more than corn meal.
Bottom line, educate yourself (the Whole Dog Journal is a great place to start), then make an informed choice, and RELAX.

Charles asks…

Bichon frise food question?

Hello i currently have a bichon frise who is 8 or 9 and for the past couple years has been on pedogree for small breeds and i recently found out it might be bad for him i was wondering whats a good brand of food i can switch him to? Thanks

Jimmy answers:

It is hard to suggest a specific food but you would ideally be looking for a food that has a named animal protein first … The food should not have artificial colours or preservatives … The food should be grain free … So no corn or wheat for example, dog’s can not digest grains … The food should contain no by-products … But meal is okay if the protein source is named … Like if they said meat meal that is bad cuz what meat, it is too vague and could be anything … But chicken meal is actually the chicken with the moisture removed so protein-wise it is condensed/better than just chicken being named (cuz once chicken named first in an ingredient list, once the moisture is removed it falls lower on the ingredient list which many people do not realize) … And when you switch, only add a bit of the new food increasing it each day till the dog is eating only the better quality food … I just finished dog sitting two pugs for almost two months … They were on pedigree canned adult dog food … Their coats were dull, they were smelly, their ears funky, eyes gunky … I put them on my dog’s food for the two months and their coats became soft and shiny and they were significantly less smelly, gunky and funky … They used to have huge soft smelly poops on every single trip outdoors and on the super premium food they pooped once a day and it was small and firm … Less poop means the body is actually utilizing the food being ingested and it is not just passing undigested filler from poor quality food … Here is the ingredient list for the food i feed my little guy … It is called acana pacifica … A five pound bag is around twenty dollars where i live …

“Boneless salmon, salmon meal, herring meal, whitefish meal, green peas, red lentils, whole potato, boneless herring, boneless flounder, herring oil, field beans, canola oil, sun-cured alfalfa, pea fibre, natural fish flavour, whole apples, whole pears, sweet potato, pumpkin, butternut squash, parsnips, carrots, spinach greens, cranberries, blueberries, kelp, chicory root, juniper berries, angelica root, marigold flowers, sweet fennel, peppermint leaf, lavender, rosemary”

and even though the food i feed my little guy is considered expensive, cuz he is a little dog he only eats 1/4 cup a day so a five pound bag of dog food easily lasts more than two months … I regularly get compliments on how soft and shiny his coat is and he loves the food …

Before my dog ate acana he was on halo dog food … That is also a quality dog food made with human-grade ingredients, they have grain-free formulas (both canned and kibble) and my dog did love that food … He ate the halo grain free hearty surf and turf … It is a smaller sized kibble which makes it easier for little dogs to eat and digest, and the canned variety is very high quality … No halo products have ever been recalled in the history of the company and is produced in their own factory with ingredients only sourced from the united states and canada … I think it is a good quality food and is a bit less expensive …

“Whitefish, Whole Peas, Pea Protein, Potato, Eggs, Pea Flour, Turkey Liver, Vegetable Broth, Turkey, Chicken Fat (preserved with mixed tocopherols and citric acid), Flax Seed, Pea Fiber, Duck, Salmon Oil (preserved with mixed tocopherols), Sweet Potatoes, Apples, Blueberries, Green Beans, Carrots, Cranberries, Zucchini, Alfalfa, Inulin, Calcium Sulfate, Monocalcium Phosphate, Potassium Chloride, Taurine, Salt, Vitamins (Folic Acid, Vitamin A Supplement, Vitamin D3 Supplement, Vitamin E Supplement, Vitamin B12 Supplement, Choline Bitartrate, Niacin, d-Calcium Pantothenate, Ascorbic Acid, Riboflavin Supplement, Thiamine Mononitrate, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride, Biotin), Minerals (Zinc Proteinate, Iron Proteinate, Cobalt Proteinate, Copper Proteinate, Manganese Proteinate, Magnesium Proteinate, Calcium Iodate, Sodium Selenite), Dried Lactobacillus acidophilus Fermentation Product, Dried Bifidobacterium longum Fermentation Product, Dried Enterococcus faecium Fermentation Product, Dried Lactobacillus plantarum Fermentation Product”

you can also browse the dog food advisor site which rates different foods, gives ingredients and highlights in red questionable ingredients … Http://www.dogfoodadvisor.com/

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